Game Development: Salem & Haven

[ewlol]

Jorb acknowledged the "bread ovens" as being only temporary. But what about the large house, the chest, the terra tiles? All of those are clunky.
I'm sorry, but I disagree with Burg and Jackard in their idea that gameplay is more important than graphics. They are equally important. I believe some of the new systems are very interesting, like the tables and the "purity" ratings.

I don't know if Jorb said it in the video, but I think that impurities in items should account for some global pollution of sorts--one that deteriorates areas that have large, unmanaged waste sites. Perhaps pollution would obstruct plant growth and the purity of the foods that are created with plant matter.

[boshaw]

No bridges becouse of the map generator loftar has made.

Why would his map generator stop players from creating bridges after the map is generated?

[MagicManICT]

I found it interesting (as someone who's never worked on graphics or programming, etc...except maybe a little RPG Maker) that 3D creatures were easier to make than 2D...I would have assumed it was harder..though, again, based on really no experience ^^.

From what I've done, 3D is easier in some cases as it doesn't require as much artwork to do. Adjusting the models becomes simpler than trying to draw multiple perspectives. However, when you start throwing in texturing, bump mapping, adjusting vectors, lighting qualities, etc., it becomes a huge mountain that can run your expense per model up to 5 to 10 times what equivalent 2D art would be. (Java has a hard time doing these things real time and remain playable, so don't expect much on the high end.) <3 Blender! http://www.blender.org/

[Robertzon]

No bridges becouse of the map generator loftar has made.

Why would his map generator stop players from creating bridges after the map is generated?

[BookerTW]

The one thing I'm wondering, is if the hf and pclaim are one and the same, is there going to be a limit to how close they can be to each other, because if not, I'm sure people are gonna create alts just to make one big claim.

[Jackard]

Jorb acknowledged the "bread ovens" as being only temporary. But what about the large house, the chest, the terra tiles? All of those are clunky.
I'm sorry, but I disagree with Burg and Jackard in their idea that gameplay is more important than graphics.

you complain about graphics but you play h&h?

[Daji]

Jorb acknowledged the "bread ovens" as being only temporary. But what about the large house, the chest, the terra tiles? All of those are clunky.
I'm sorry, but I disagree with Burg and Jackard in their idea that gameplay is more important than graphics.

you complain about graphics but you play h&h?

wut?

[TeckXKnight]

The one thing I'm wondering, is if the hf and pclaim are one and the same, is there going to be a limit to how close they can be to each other, because if not, I'm sure people are gonna create alts just to make one big claim.

This is an issue they've dealt with in Haven already so hopefully not something we need to go over again.

[ewlol]

Jorb acknowledged the "bread ovens" as being only temporary. But what about the large house, the chest, the terra tiles? All of those are clunky.
I'm sorry, but I disagree with Burg and Jackard in their idea that gameplay is more important than graphics.

you complain about graphics but you play h&h?

2D is far different than 3D.
hnh has a lovely quirkiness to it.
salem just falls short.

[joseboda]

2D is far different than 3D.
hnh has a lovely quirkiness to it.
salem just falls short.

Gameplay over graphics x1000... Three of the most enthralling games for me were H&H, dwarf fortress and Unreal World, not the fancy EA crap shooters kids are playing nowadays, where you get to see every hair follicle in your avatar face but gamewise the content is just lacks severely...

Salem looked quite nice, bur there's clearly work to be done, then again that's why its still in pre-alpha.

Jorbtar, just keep polishing that world so it's nice and shining for when we join next year =)