Bots, lets talk about them.

[Ethan]

I just don't buy the argument that botting is cheating. I don't think you can objectively define the rules of this game, let alone define what is cheating.

It's cheating because if its allowed to continue the game will die.

I think we can class a lot of the game mechanics as cheating under than rule

[LadyV]

In the constraints of this game, I don't think botting can really be called cheating. especially as it is not forbidden. Who decides what behavior is within the rules and what is considered cheating?

Nope. It's just that we don't see that there is much we can do about it. It is certainly not "approved".

If it is not approved it is by default cheating.

[Ethan]

In the constraints of this game, I don't think botting can really be called cheating. especially as it is not forbidden. Who decides what behavior is within the rules and what is considered cheating?

Nope. It's just that we don't see that there is much we can do about it. It is certainly not "approved".

If it is not approved it is by default cheating.

By that stroke custom client features such as night vision, showing movement vectors, and etc are also cheating.

[dageir]

In the constraints of this game, I don't think botting can really be called cheating. especially as it is not forbidden. Who decides what behavior is within the rules and what is considered cheating?

Nope. It's just that we don't see that there is much we can do about it. It is certainly not "approved".

If it is not approved it is by default cheating.

By that stroke custom client features such as night vision, showing movement vectors, and etc are also cheating.

You are right.

[Ethan]

By that stroke custom client features such as night vision, showing movement vectors, and etc are also cheating.

You are right.

Should we not also punish people who use those then? I have seen plenty of self posted screen shots of people using those features so should be easy to dish out some justice.

[dageir]

I hope the devs will sort out that in time.
That being said botting represent a bigger problem since bots are more restricted than lets say clients who are open to all.

[LadyV]

By that stroke custom client features such as night vision, showing movement vectors, and etc are also cheating.

A custom client its self is not cheating. Accessing game resources that is not listed in the free source code is.

http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/doc-src

[APXEOLOG]

A custom client its self is not cheating. Accessing game resources that is not listed in the free source code is.

But those features are cheating

[simimi]

Ya, boting is not cheating :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKi92j6eLE

[LadyV]

A custom client its self is not cheating. Accessing game resources that is not listed in the free source code is.

But those features are cheating

I'm not disagreeing.