W9 Siege System

[Granger]

1k tiles distance would be a good load of banners to go around, and it would certainly suck should the corresponding idol go *poof* for trying to exploit in this way.

In case you have a plan that works to prevent building donuts around other claims - or maybe even in general, so claimed lakes or private hunting grounds would be a thing of that past too (it might suck should one not be able to claim the wall first and the interior of a village later, but this tradeoff should be worth it) - I would say to go for it.

[loftar]

Well, yeah, sure. Arguably, if the algorithm I presented actually works, there's probably no harm in applying it, since then you at least actually to have to claim the entire area and then hollow it out, which is an effort that scales with the area of the desired hollow, rather than its circumference.

[Granger]

After having thought about it: your algorithm will work to disable building hollow stuff, and it won't be in the way to replace broken banners inside a claimed area - unless you manage to break all banners around the idol, then it would block and you would be unable to rebuild them without destroying the outer ring (or a good part of it).

So my suggestion is to implement a second check, only taken in case the first test fails and there are exactly two partitions: test both of them for being connected to the idol, xor results of both and allow if true. This would enable reconnection of disconnected areas while disallowing creation of rings.

Combine with my suggested check on idol activation for being surrounded (plus the falling sky on circumventing it) and the game should be in a better state than before.

[loftar]

test both of them for being connected to the idol

Well, the problem with that is that such a check would require global knowledge of the entire village claim, which could potentially need to load whoknowshow much additional map. And either way, I think I'd be fine with a completely disconnected part of the village to be effectively dead for reconnection.

[Granger]

test both of them for being connected to the idol

Well, the problem with that is that such a check would require global knowledge of the entire village claim, which could potentially need to load whoknowshow much additional map. And either way, I think I'd be fine with a completely disconnected part of the village to be effectively dead for reconnection.

Please rethink, since this would open a griefing ability that would completely suck.

[Pickard]

I wanted to make village idol on my plot to to build plot charter. Before village shield news.
Now you suggest this nonsense ideas to fix inherently flawed system.
Good job.

1k tiles? I need only 25 idols to secure my supergrid? Nice.

[Granger]

And how do you plan to do that?

You can't plant idols in the way that their area touches of overlaps, so you can't plant them to deny access to your plot.

[Pickard]

And how do you plan to do that?

You can't plant idols in the way that their area touches of overlaps, so you can't plant them to deny access to your plot.

Its simple


PS: I didnt say I want protect plot walls with additional idol. I just want my own charter.

[Granger]

So, where is the problem with that?

Someone with some catapults come by and can destroy the shield over the pclaim, then the village claim shield is ineffective.

We discussed that you use another village around your real village (or even more layers), to get multiple shields...

[Robben_DuMarsch]

Ram in previous worlds: Drop and come back within 24 hours, defend as you like.

Catapult: 6 hour dry period, a minimum of 20 hours of supervision for firing and 20 repair periods. So, 26 hour minimum with players being required to supervise (at least partially) 20 of them.

Unlikely that we are going to see regional resource nodes change hands when you need to effectively camp them for so long.