Game Development: Approaches to Combat pt. II

[Onep]

Losing a character after a 5 second chase and one hit is depressing

i wish i could show that video to everyone hehe

You should've been watching my stream when I got roasted by an archer from Refuge. Totes immersive gameplay.

[Lunarius_Haberdash]

i love the new updates this is jsut like legecy and taking away color codes is perfect nerf archery and boom this game is great

This is easily the worst endorsement of the new combat system "Just like Legacy" means "A smoking pile of crap."

[Ozzy123]

i love the new updates this is jsut like legecy and taking away color codes is perfect nerf archery and boom this game is great

This is easily the worst endorsement of the new combat system "Just like Legacy" means "A smoking pile of crap."

what the fuck r u talking about XD legacys combat system was the best out of all games made by j&l

[Lunarius_Haberdash]

i love the new updates this is jsut like legecy and taking away color codes is perfect nerf archery and boom this game is great

This is easily the worst endorsement of the new combat system "Just like Legacy" means "A smoking pile of crap."

what the fuck r u talking about XD legacys combat system was the best out of all games made by j&l

I really enjoyed the one we had coming into Hafen, simple, easy to understand, intuitive to learn but difficult to get really good at. It just needed some tweaking, not a complete overhaul.

[Archiplex]

I really enjoyed the one we had coming into Hafen, simple, easy to understand, intuitive to learn but difficult to get really good at. It just needed some tweaking, not a complete overhaul.

Don't forget "incredibly and easily exploitable"

Though i don't like legacy either

[shubla]

I really enjoyed the one we had coming into Hafen, simple, easy to understand, intuitive to learn but difficult to get really good at. It just needed some tweaking, not a complete overhaul.

Current system is way better than one in test server right now.
But current system is not really too good. One major issue is that you dont have any defenses at the beginning. Def bar or something similiar would be nice.
Problem with new combat system is that devs dont really listen to community. They listen to what they want to hear. and then make shitty system and dont fix major problems in it.

[Astarisk]

rip sword combat, it will be b12s all over now

Why?

Because the skills that require a sword + shield are pretty lackluster in my opinion. Shield up isn't really a must have, sting pretty much appears to suck, and parry isn't great (if that even requires a sword on the test realm?).

With the combat on live the best defense move is parry, it blocks any move that MC is able to do, and as you know requires a sword. Likewise, shield up blocking 3 colors (mostly just the red + yellow) took care of everything else in case you decided to hunt, or wanted to be lazy about color defense. Making a build that didn't rely on parry wasn't really possible. Yield ground / quick dodge looked like it might have been decent, but then you realize that the opponents parry will just remove your yield ground if you try to do anything to break their defense etc etc.. You could have probably upped the card choices to 6 on live and reworked / added a few skills and see what that would have been like x]

What will happen with the test server combat is that players will gravitate towards the weapons that allow them to deal the most damage, which of course is b12's, unless you happen to better define the trade off for using swords vs b12s.

[leanne69]

We are aware that archery is crazy right now. We intend to change it. Generally speaking I want to reduce damage but increase accuracy.

Why not also include the agi modifier it has like in legacy? Why don't you want to add this back?

[Kaios]

Arguably these changes are "some adjustments" to the original system, but that's a matter of definition of course.

personally I'd rather go with calling it a complete overhaul but if you think a month for "some adjustments" is acceptable well then okay.

[Onep]

This combat is going to be terrible if it makes it to the regular server. It's sooo slow. Good luck ever catching someone before they run to their walls. It's not an improvement, it's going to be the same thing where you either have to way out stat someone or surround them with 10 people.