Visitor Buff

[Mario_Demorez]

Make the buff apply to everyone that passes into a visitor gate. At the moment it does not apply to people oathed into a village even if they don't have the permissions to steal/vandalize. The current work around is to P-Claim everything.

[Ants]

+1

yes pls

[MagicManICT]

Nah. 1) Don't oath people into your village you don't trust: OR
2) use smaller p-claims; OR
3) use field cairns to fine tune permissions in certain areas.

Tools are in place to keep potentially unruly villagers in line. They may not be the most convenient, and need to be improved in various manners. Let's work on ideas to improve the tools we have on hand, not diminish good ideas.

I certainly don't want to be running around my village all day with a visitor flag. It causes certain complications.

[Mario_Demorez]

Nah. 1) Don't oath people into your village you don't trust: OR
2) use smaller p-claims; OR
3) use field cairns to fine tune permissions in certain areas.

Tools are in place to keep potentially unruly villagers in line. They may not be the most convenient, and need to be improved in various manners. Let's work on ideas to improve the tools we have on hand, not diminish good ideas.

I certainly don't want to be running around my village all day with a visitor flag. It causes certain complications.

The visitor flag would only affect you if you didn’t have permissions in that area though. Putting up cairns doesn’t do anything different than using roles in village, they can still commit crimes. If I place a pclaim though it applies the visitor buff. Why not just make it where the gate applies the buff and not the claim.

[Lojka]

but you can build your HF inside, and then just teleport to it and you won't have Visitor Buff

[Lyrroth]

Nah. 1) Don't oath people into your village you don't trust: OR
2) use smaller p-claims; OR
3) use field cairns to fine tune permissions in certain areas.

Tools are in place to keep potentially unruly villagers in line. They may not be the most convenient, and need to be improved in various manners. Let's work on ideas to improve the tools we have on hand, not diminish good ideas.

I certainly don't want to be running around my village all day with a visitor flag. It causes certain complications.

rip public projects going by this logic

[Pan_w_okularach]

here's an idea: remove visitor's debuff.
pros:
1. would make things less (unnecessarily) convoluted
2. would prevent all the numerous exploits and abuses of the visitor system
cons:
???

[neeco]

cons:
???

Large open markets would not be able to exist. Unless you see that as a pro, I guess.

[MagicManICT]

2. would prevent all the numerous exploits and abuses of the visitor system

Let's remove walls, too, because they get exploited and abused.