The game is full of bloat and clutter

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The game is full of bloat and clutter

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start cleaning up
jorb wrote: I do not want to over-promise or hype up stuff that could be months out.
"Our primary development direction is toward object-controlled-objects"
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Re: The game is full of bloat and clutter

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I can't believe you didn't use that one Image
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my belly’s full of oat and butter
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Re: The game is full of bloat and clutter

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Obviously, it's a game is made for players who have already been playing for 10 yrs
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nightmare wrote:Obviously, it's a game is made for players who have already been playing for 10 yrs
bloat and clutter does not equal "content"

you can add a new dungeon that has something interesting, that's content
you can add 500 more spices and useless food, that's bloat
you can add 40 birds that do the same thing, that's clutter

catch my drift?
jorb wrote: I do not want to over-promise or hype up stuff that could be months out.
"Our primary development direction is toward object-controlled-objects"
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Re: The game is full of bloat and clutter

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Nightdawg wrote:
nightmare wrote:Obviously, it's a game is made for players who have already been playing for 10 yrs
bloat and clutter does not equal "content"

you can add a new dungeon that has something interesting, that's content
you can add 500 more spices and useless food, that's bloat
you can add 40 birds that do the same thing, that's clutter

catch my drift?
Yes.
The issue is that with a stagnant player base. When everyone who is playing has every item in the game memorized and knows the meta, what can you really do to give them more variety in this department? How can you change this meta? It seems most players try to metagame every new item as soon as it comes out anyways.
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nightmare wrote: Yes.
The issue is that with a stagnant player base. When everyone who is playing has every item in the game memorized and knows the meta, what can you really do to give them more variety in this department? How can you change this meta? It seems most players try to metagame every new item as soon as it comes out anyways.
so you mean adding useless bloat that said players simply ignore is the answer?
jorb wrote: I do not want to over-promise or hype up stuff that could be months out.
"Our primary development direction is toward object-controlled-objects"
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Re: The game is full of bloat and clutter

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Nightdawg wrote:
nightmare wrote: Yes.
The issue is that with a stagnant player base. When everyone who is playing has every item in the game memorized and knows the meta, what can you really do to give them more variety in this department? How can you change this meta? It seems most players try to metagame every new item as soon as it comes out anyways.
so you mean adding useless bloat that said players simply ignore is the answer?
No I'm just offering my reasoning for why it's this way
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Re: The game is full of bloat and clutter

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The game needs more bloat and clutter.
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