Time to shut down H&H for good?

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Re: Time to shut down H&H for good?

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Re: Time to shut down H&H for good?

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devs change update cycle; start updating weekly
devs lose traction on the new update cycle
people act like this game ever had an update cycle to begin with

you used to get an update like, every world reset, now we get several, but naturally if you start doing something slightly better, if you don't maintain that quality/quantity then it's like you never started lower to begin with. yall are vultures.
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Re: Time to shut down H&H for good?

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As long as there are still people playing and the project isn't losing money, there is no reason to end it
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Re: Time to shut down H&H for good?

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Zephroze wrote:devs change update cycle; start updating weekly
devs lose traction on the new update cycle
people act like this game ever had an update cycle to begin with

you used to get an update like, every world reset, now we get several, but naturally if you start doing something slightly better, if you don't maintain that quality/quantity then it's like you never started lower to begin with. yall are vultures.
The problem isn't really the frequency of updates, it's the utter dev silence. We have no idea when the next patch is, we have no idea what they're working on or if they're even working on anything, we have no idea what the plan or vision is for the next few months or years (besides OCO). It makes Haven feel like abandonware and it's honestly disrespectful to the players who've supported the game with their time or money for years.

I'm not even a fan of weekly updates. I'd rather Haven had 2-4 major patches a year instead of 50 tiny patches consisting of bug fixes or a new cupboard color or whatever. But devs need to actually communicate with players and tell us what they're working on (eg dev diaries). If selling hats is important to fund the game, they could release a new hat with each new dev diary.

Right now the impression I get is the devs have basically abandoned the game but don't want to say it out loud so they don't discourage players from buying subs/hats.
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Re: Time to shut down H&H for good?

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As things stand, best case scenario is someone creates Haven's spiritual successor and we all migrate over to it.

Worst case scenario, that doesn't happen, and this game and its unique genre continues its slow, painful death. Truly tragic.
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vipes wrote: The problem isn't really the frequency of updates, it's the utter dev silence. We have no idea when the next patch is, we have no idea what they're working on or if they're even working on anything, we have no idea what the plan or vision is for the next few months or years (besides OCO). It makes Haven feel like abandonware and it's honestly disrespectful to the players who've supported the game with their time or money for years.
Well it was like that since beginning of times, it was the same when you joined the game, I only don't get at what point people get this idea that devs ought to talk to them
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vipes wrote: Right now the impression I get is the devs have basically abandoned the game but don't want to say it out loud so they don't discourage players from buying subs/hats.
unfortunately some part of the playerbase has reached unfathomable levels of cuckery (also known as Stockholm syndrome) and will continue to buy subscriptions as long as there is no outright announcement of the game shutting down. like I've legit seen people air their grievances with a certain update or whatever, and then, a week or a month later they are asking for help because their previous payment method (for buying hats) is not working :roll:
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i'd rather no dev communication vs. being expected to watch a 10 minute youtube video full of freaks just to get 2 or 3 lines worth of patch notes
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